LCID Q2 2025: $55M tariff hit erodes 21% margins, Gravity demand high
- High Demand for Lucid Gravity: Despite not disclosing exact order numbers, management emphasized that customers are experiencing the Gravity model firsthand, resulting in a high conversion rate. This indicates a robust demand environment where production is supply‐constrained rather than demand-limited.
- On-Track Mid-Sized Platform: The Q&A confirmed that production for the midsize vehicle remains scheduled to start in late 2026, with deliveries expected to ramp up in 2027. This solid timeline supports future revenue growth.
- Strategic Uber Partnership: The discussion highlighted the significant impact of the partnership with Uber and Neuro, which not only validates Lucid’s EV platform but also positions the company to tap into a multi-trillion-dollar robotaxi market.
- Tariff and Margin Pressure: The Q&A revealed that tariff-related costs led to a significant margin hit (a 21 percentage point drop and a net negative impact of roughly $55 million in Q2), which creates uncertainty around sustainable profitability going forward.
- Production and Delivery Uncertainties: There were concerns raised regarding the gravity delivery ramp, including a mention of false reports of zero deliveries in July and questions on production timelines, indicating potential operational and supply chain vulnerabilities.
- Rising and Back-Loaded CapEx Spending: The discussion highlighted that CapEx spending is expected to more than double in the second half of the year due to non-linear, back-loaded investments, which could strain financial resources and increase execution risks if market conditions deteriorate.
Metric | Period | Previous Guidance | Current Guidance | Change |
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Production Guidance | FY 2025 | 20,000 vehicles | 18,000 to 20,000 vehicles | lowered |
Capital Expenditures (CapEx) | FY 2025 | $1.4 billion | $1.1 billion to $1.2 billion | lowered |
Tariff Impact on Margins | FY 2025 | 8% to 15% | Lower end of 8% to 15% | lowered |
Topic | Previous Mentions | Current Period | Trend |
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Lucid Gravity Demand | Q1 2025 highlighted strong demand with over three-quarters of orders from new customers and high conversion at test events ( ); Q4 2024 emphasized record order momentum and a strong new customer base despite limited marketing ( ); Q3 2024 noted a compelling value proposition and latent demand ( ). | Q2 2025 reaffirmed “consistent strong demand” with nearly doubled daily order rates once customers experienced Lucid Gravity, citing supply constraints rather than demand issues and bolstered by a new Gravity campaign and strategic collaborations ( ). | Demand remains robust with continuous customer interest, now supported by enhanced marketing and strategic partnerships. |
Midsize Platform Development | Q3 2024, Q4 2024, and Q1 2025 consistently discussed the platform’s advanced engineering phase and a production start scheduled for late 2026, with emphasis on cost-conscious design and the Atlas drive unit’s development ( ). | Q2 2025 reiterated that production for the midsize platform remains scheduled for late 2026 with on‐track development of the Atlas drive unit and focused sourcing and validation activities ( ). | The timeline and strategic focus remain consistent with robust execution plans; sentiment is steady and forward‐looking. |
Margin Dynamics and Cost Management | Q3 2024 reported sequential improvements in gross margin due to ongoing cost reduction and scaling efficiencies ( ); Q4 2024 noted significant improvements year‐over‐year and stable production-driven cost reductions ( ); Q1 2025 emphasized margin improvement via cost transformation and scale, even as tariff pressures were acknowledged ( ). | Q2 2025 described margin pressures with a reported negative gross margin affected by tariffs, yet noted material cost optimization, localized sourcing and scaling strategies to ultimately drive improvement ( ). | Margin challenges persist—tariff pressures have an immediate negative impact while cost management and scale efforts continue to offer a path to improvement. |
Production, Delivery, and Supply Chain Execution | Q3 2024 highlighted production of 1,805 vehicles with record deliveries and improvements in factory efficiency ( ); Q4 2024 reported record increases in production and deliveries alongside strategic inventory management ( ); Q1 2025 saw increasing production and delivery numbers, while modest supply chain bottlenecks were addressed ( ). | Q2 2025 reported significant production increases (targeting 18,000–20,000 vehicles in 2025) with strong record deliveries and effective mitigation of supply chain issues (e.g. quickly integrating substitute magnets) ( ). | Production scaling remains a priority with continued operational resilience; supply chain challenges are being effectively managed to support growing volumes. |
Strategic Partnerships and Technology Licensing | Q3 2024 emphasized long-term partnerships (e.g. with PIF) and early steps into technology licensing with Atlas drive unit technology ( ); Q4 2024 mentioned ongoing discussions with large OEMs and leveraging existing technologies like the Zeus powertrain ( ); Q1 2025 discussed partnerships such as the KAUST MOU and OEM technology licensing interest, including joint manufacturing opportunities ( ). | Q2 2025 announced a significant strategic partnership with Uber and Neuro for a premium robotaxi initiative — a deal that not only validates their Gravity vehicle architecture but also expands licensing opportunities; further discussions with other partners remain in progress ( ). | There is a clear shift toward broader strategic partnerships that exploit licensing opportunities and open new markets (e.g. robotaxi), indicating an expanding strategic scope. |
Technical and Quality Challenges | Q3 2024 had minimal focus on these, though quality was emphasized by leadership as critical during ramp-ups ( ); Q4 2024 stressed maintaining quality with a deliberate ramp for Lucid Gravity and technology advancements ( ); Q1 2025 mentioned overcoming supply chain and tariff challenges with a focus on quality and operational discipline ( ). | Q2 2025 focused on overcoming production bottlenecks—citing rapid resolution of supply challenges through vertical integration—while also noting enhancements such as software updates and part communization for improved quality ( ). | Focus on quality remains high; while technical and supply chain challenges continue, the emphasis is on rapid corrective action and technological enhancements, reflecting a stable quality outlook. |
Product Roadmap Uncertainty | Q1 2025 acknowledged delays related to the midsize platform and modest supply chain issues impacting Lucid Gravity timelines ( ); Q4 2024 and Q3 2024 did not indicate significant delays, reinforcing a clear roadmap with production targets set for late 2026 and a strong Gravity rollout ( ). | Q2 2025 noted that although production for Lucid Gravity is behind desired targets, most supply chain issues have been resolved and the midsize platform timeline remains unchanged, emphasizing resolution over delay ( ). | While some uncertainties persist regarding short‐term production ramp, overall product roadmap milestones remain largely intact with issues being actively addressed. |
Leadership Stability and Management Changes | Q4 2024 detailed a major leadership transition with Marc Winterhoff taking over as Interim CEO and Taoufiq Boussaid as new CFO, with assurances on team continuity ( ); Q1 2025 reiterated the presence of Interim CEO Marc Winterhoff and newly appointed CFO, and Q3 2024 did not mention leadership changes ( ). | Q2 2025 continued with the interim leadership from previous quarters, mentioning Interim CEO Marc Winterhoff and CFO Taoufiq Boussaid, without controversy or further changes ( ). | There is continuity following a leadership transition; the new management appears stable and is effectively guiding strategic initiatives. |
Capital Requirements and Funding Challenges | Q3 2024 featured a successful capital raise of over $1.75 billion, reinforcing a strong liquidity position into 2026 ( ); Q4 2024 reported over $6 billion in liquidity with renewed credit facilities and clear capex guidance ( ); Q1 2025 detailed liquidity improvement moves including convertible senior notes and upsized credit arrangements ( ). | Q2 2025 reported strong liquidity with $3.6 billion in cash and investments alongside a revised 2025 CapEx guidance and plans for a 1-for-10 reverse stock split, demonstrating continued focus on capital discipline and funding resiliency ( ). | Capital health remains robust across periods; while funding challenges such as high CapEx persist, proactive measures (e.g. reverse split, credit facility upsizing) signal a disciplined financial strategy. |
Global Expansion and Production Scaling Initiatives | Q3 2024 and Q4 2024 focused on scaling production with record vehicle outputs and expanding manufacturing in both Arizona and Saudi Arabia ( ); Q1 2025 detailed plans to boost production volumes to 20,000 vehicles in 2025 and emphasized expanding production capacity through U.S. and Saudi facilities ( ). | Q2 2025 reaffirmed global expansion goals by not only aiming for higher production volumes but also enhancing domestic sourcing (e.g. new graphite agreements) and leveraging U.S.-based manufacturing for greater supply chain resilience ( ). | Global expansion and scaling initiatives remain a central theme, with consistent investments in production capacity and domestic sourcing underscoring a long-term growth focus. |
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Mid-Size Timeline
Q: Is midsize on track for production?
A: Management confirmed the midsize platform will begin production in late 2026 with deliveries ramping up in 2027; meanwhile, the acquisition of Nikola facilities does not accelerate this timeline. -
Uber Partnership
Q: What impact does the Uber deal have?
A: The Uber and Neuro partnership validates Lucid’s scalable technology and strategic entry into a multi-trillion dollar market, reinforcing their long-term growth strategy. -
Tariff Impact
Q: How did tariffs affect margins this quarter?
A: Tariffs resulted in a net impact of approximately $55 million in Q2, causing a 21% margin decrease, though future reimbursements and adjustments are expected to moderate this effect. -
Convertible Plan
Q: What are the plans for the convertible note?
A: Management stated that the convertible note is scheduled to hit the market in the upcoming quarters, targeting an issuance around early 2026 as part of their balanced financing approach.
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